Comments on: BLAME WHERE BLAME IS DUE

by: dw

Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000

I go to one of the youngest by average congregational age Presbyterian churches in America. Average age of a member is 33. We have an elder for arts, two elders for outreach, six staff and a ton of volunteer staff, a church website (of my design) that is updated weekly, a huge 0-18 ministry, and an outreach to the Methodist college down the hill from us.

What did we score? 21. “On the edge. You prefer the middle ground of a traditional church setting with some Gen X additions.” WTF? Did you see my numbers? The median age for our church IS Gen X. Still, we’re not “happening!” Grr.

The real hypocrisy to me with the J. Jackson incident was that NO ONE HAS MENTIONED ANY OF THE COMMERCIALS. A guy gets bitten in the genitals by a dog. A ref gets ripped into by his wife in a quite misogynist spot. Then there’s the lecherous monkey. (And this is all for the SAME COMPANY!)

The culture wars are over, and everyone lost. 15 years ago all you could hear was how raunchy Married With Children was and how antisocial The Simpsons was. Now, The Simpsons is a touchstone in television comedy, and Married With Children could probably be shown today with nothing more than a TV-PG.

What really needs to happen is for media critics to start criticizing the media instead of criticizing the critics.

by: Mark Hasty

Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000

I’m hoping my old college friend Paul reads this, DW, because he will know exactly which Twin Cities media critic needs to be reminded that, as you put it, “What really needs to happen is for media critics to start criticizing the media instead of criticizing the critics.”

by: Paul

Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000

Mark,

Brian Lambert of the St. Paul Pioneer Press?

I don’t know; it’s tough to say.

But you know, more or less non-stop from Jan. 1999 to Dec. 2002, those of us in the Minnesota media were strictly “jackals” according to some big elected official once prone to parading around in feather boas.

by: Mark Hasty

Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000

Paul:

Yep, Lambert’s who I was thinking of.

Gov. The Body just got too used to being interviewed by Mene Gene Okerlund, I think.

by: The Kudzu Files

Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000

They who will not be named
I’ve been trying to find the right words to say what I wanted to say about the SB half-time show. Now I don’t need to - Mark has said it better than I ever could….